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ruble/rouble
« on: September 26, 2007, 12:51:08 PM »
I've always seen the word spelled as ruble much more than rouble, yet it appeared in Monday's challenge puzzle that ruble was listed in the rare list and rouble in the common word list. The free dictionary showed rouble as a variant of ruble.

Can you please explain this, O GAGL!  :angel:

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Re: ruble/rouble
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 09:11:48 PM »
Helloooooo!??

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Re: ruble/rouble
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 09:12:57 PM »
Hello!!  I disagree, rouble is the more common spelling .... surely?  >:D

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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 09:14:02 PM »
Not (here)! I think  ???

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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2007, 09:14:38 PM »
Maybe not, but it is in civilised countries!  >:D

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2007, 09:17:23 PM »
Oh, like we're not? Here's a picture of our most recent member of city council!  >:D

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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2007, 09:18:09 PM »
He's gorgeous ... so macho ... perhaps roberts could take on his persona for a day or two ... I'm sure he's a bit of a caveman at heart!  >:D

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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2007, 09:18:46 PM »
presactly!  >:D

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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2007, 09:19:46 PM »
I knew you were going to say that .... you omitted to use the capital P though .... tut tut!  >:D

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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2007, 09:22:06 PM »
Call me a lazy hag, then!  ;)

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2007, 09:22:32 PM »
Okay ... lazy hag!  >:D

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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2007, 10:33:22 PM »
Okay. I think I've been very patient. Could I please, please, pretty-please, have an answer on this one, O GAGL!!!  ???

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Re: ruble/rouble
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2007, 03:31:46 AM »
I have never seen the spelling rouble until it popped up on the common word list.  I didn't get it, of course.  I have made a note of this and *may* remember in future.  The Russians spell it rubl', which my Russian/English dictionary (American), translates it as r(o)uble.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2007, 05:23:37 AM »
Thanks, R-M, for the reinforcement. Perhaps, GAGL will see this and take note!  :angel:

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Re: ruble/rouble
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2007, 04:09:28 PM »
Really, the Russian word is written in the Cyrillic alphabet: рубль.

Ruble and rouble are two efforts at transliterating it into our alphabet. Dictionaries published in England (and Australia) generally have the primary entry under rouble, with ruble as an alternate form, while dictionaries published in the US seem normally to do it the other way around. The Wikipedia says:

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Both the spellings "ruble" and "rouble" are used in English. The form "rouble" is preferred by the Oxford English Dictionary, but the earliest use recorded in English is the now completely obsolete "robble". The form "rouble" probably derives from the transliteration into French used among the Tsarist aristocracy. There is some tendency for North American authors to use "ruble" and other English speakers to use "rouble", and also some tendency for older sources to use "rouble" and more recent ones to use "ruble", but neither tendency is absolute. An accurate, but ungainly, English transliteration is rubl'.

Judging by the number of entries returned by Google searches, the two spelling are used with similar frequency in English language Web pages. (If the search is not restricted to the English language, rouble gets quite a lot more hits - presumably because of pages in French and other European languages.)

When words have different "American" and "British" spellings, they probably should be treated the same for Chihuahua purposes - both common, or both rare. That didn't happen here, probably because I didn't look at the two words at the same time.

So now you have your explanation, Threeb. Any suggestions as to what I should do about it?
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