Author Topic: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle  (Read 353 times)

ridethetalk

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1274
  • Energy efficiency - saving money and the climate
    • View Profile
    • Ride the Talk
Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« on: July 01, 2022, 04:05:58 PM »
A couple more for your consideration, Alan. It's probably notable that I missed getting (common) fetishist but did get the (rare) fetishise, hence the possibility that adding the "r" on the end made sense to me...

FETISHISER – one who fetishises e.g. “To assume that anyone who’s dated more than one Asian woman is a fetishiser, lumps all Asian women into a singular entity and personality type.” From https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/voices/relationships/article/2017/02/22/whats-difference-between-having-type-and-fetishisation

SHIFTER – worth a reclassification to common IMHO e.g. would you hand me that large shifter please so that I can tighten the sump plug? You also have numerous references in fantasy novels to shape shifters…
The greenest watt ever produced is the one you never use. Playing as jk1956 and John is my name.
When we come out of the Covid-19 crisis, we need to make sure recovery efforts address the Climate Crisis (which can't be solved using social distancing!)

Alan W

  • Administrator
  • Eulexic
  • *****
  • Posts: 4592
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2022, 03:45:23 PM »
Wiktionary lists fetishizer, but not fetishiser. Other dictionaries don't seem to have either. Both spellings are in use. Another example is from Roman Presences: Receptions of Rome in European Culture, 1789–1945, edited by Catharine Edwards:

Quote
[Walter] Benjamin was an inveterate collector of books (he has a famous essay on the subject) and later of quotations, a fetishiser of the collected object, with an ambition to create a work entirely composed of citations from other texts.

We currently allow both fetishize and fetishise. Fetishizer and fetishiser will now be allowed as rare words.
Alan Walker
Creator of Lexigame websites

ridethetalk

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1274
  • Energy efficiency - saving money and the climate
    • View Profile
    • Ride the Talk
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2022, 04:47:53 PM »
Thanks Alan...  ;D ;D ;D

I only posted this yesterday!!! Does this mean your backlog is no more???  :-P :-P :-P
The greenest watt ever produced is the one you never use. Playing as jk1956 and John is my name.
When we come out of the Covid-19 crisis, we need to make sure recovery efforts address the Climate Crisis (which can't be solved using social distancing!)

Alan W

  • Administrator
  • Eulexic
  • *****
  • Posts: 4592
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2022, 07:55:42 PM »
Far from it! But I'm trying to keep up with current suggestions - at least for new words - while also responding to some of the older ones.
Alan Walker
Creator of Lexigame websites

yelnats

  • Cryptoverbalist
  • *
  • Posts: 681
    • View Profile
    • Burke Rd billabong reserve & Friends of Herring Island
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2022, 09:17:51 PM »
I was surprised by shifter being rare  I've owned at least one most of my adult life and have 2 in the toolbox at the moment.

Maudland

  • Paronomaniac
  • ******
  • Posts: 458
  • London, UK
    • View Profile
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2022, 01:29:40 AM »
I was surprised by shifter being rare  I've owned at least one most of my adult life and have 2 in the toolbox at the moment.

I’d call that a wrench …

Maudland

  • Paronomaniac
  • ******
  • Posts: 458
  • London, UK
    • View Profile
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2022, 07:59:09 AM »
(I still think shifter is a word, though!)

ridethetalk

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1274
  • Energy efficiency - saving money and the climate
    • View Profile
    • Ride the Talk
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2022, 11:06:12 AM »
(I still think shifter is a word, though!)

Shifter was allowed as a rare word - I was asking for a re-classification to common though, based on your comment, maybe not...  ??? ??? ???
The greenest watt ever produced is the one you never use. Playing as jk1956 and John is my name.
When we come out of the Covid-19 crisis, we need to make sure recovery efforts address the Climate Crisis (which can't be solved using social distancing!)

TRex

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1883
  • ~50 miles from Chicago, in the Corn (maize) Belt
    • View Profile
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2022, 01:55:08 AM »
I’d call that a wrench …

Looks like a wrench to me as well. Never encountered shifter.

rogue_mother

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1815
  • I CAN'T BREATHE!
    • View Profile
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2022, 03:45:59 AM »
I have never in my life heard of a wrench called a shifter. The Rogue household has numerous wrenches, including at least one similar to what is pictured above. We would call it a monkey wrench or adjustable wrench.
Inside the Beltway, Washington, DC metropolitan area

TRex

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1883
  • ~50 miles from Chicago, in the Corn (maize) Belt
    • View Profile
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2022, 09:32:57 AM »
Curiosity drove me to the OED for a look. Sure enough, I found shifter — but nothing suggesting it as a label for a wrench. Perhaps such usage is an Australianism? (FWIW, spell-checker doesn't care for shifter or Australianism.)

ridethetalk

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1274
  • Energy efficiency - saving money and the climate
    • View Profile
    • Ride the Talk
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2022, 10:01:44 AM »
FWIW Here is the listing from the website of a company that specialises in tools adjustable-shifters

The company's name???

Wait for it...
.
.
.
.
.
Just Tools - someone must have had a lot of fun registering that business name!!!  :-R :-R :-R

The heading from that page: Adjustable Shifters; which, to my mind at least, seems to be a tautology...
« Last Edit: July 05, 2022, 10:08:04 AM by ridethetalk »
The greenest watt ever produced is the one you never use. Playing as jk1956 and John is my name.
When we come out of the Covid-19 crisis, we need to make sure recovery efforts address the Climate Crisis (which can't be solved using social distancing!)

Alan W

  • Administrator
  • Eulexic
  • *****
  • Posts: 4592
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2022, 02:42:06 PM »
As shown by the entry from the OED supplied by TRex, the word shifter has quite a lot of senses not related to spanners. Similarly Wiktionary has 12 senses, but one of these is "A spanner with an adjustable jaw size". None of the other dictionaries I checked had the spanner meaning for shifter. However the Collins dictionary has a listing for shifting spanner:

Quote
Australian and New Zealand

an adjustable spanner

Also called: shifter

I don't see any grounds for making the word common.
Alan Walker
Creator of Lexigame websites

ridethetalk

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1274
  • Energy efficiency - saving money and the climate
    • View Profile
    • Ride the Talk
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2022, 05:50:32 PM »
Fair call. I almost expected as much because so many hadn't heard of a 'wrench' being called a shifter...
The greenest watt ever produced is the one you never use. Playing as jk1956 and John is my name.
When we come out of the Covid-19 crisis, we need to make sure recovery efforts address the Climate Crisis (which can't be solved using social distancing!)

TRex

  • Glossologian
  • **
  • Posts: 1883
  • ~50 miles from Chicago, in the Corn (maize) Belt
    • View Profile
Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2022, 03:42:38 AM »
Similarly Wiktionary has 12 senses, but one of these is "A spanner with an adjustable jaw size". None of the other dictionaries I checked had the spanner meaning for shifter. However the Collins dictionary has a listing for shifting spanner:

Quote
Australian and New Zealand

an adjustable spanner

Also called: shifter

Ah! That makes sense. Thanks for finding that and assuaging my curiosity, Alan.