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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2008, 03:35:29 PM »
Thank you everybody for your replies!,
That it had once been to help the war effort never crossed my mind.
I always thought it was for the farmers, needing extra time in the fields.

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2008, 07:44:14 PM »
I thought it was to do with school children not having to go to school in the dark [in the good old days when they actually had to walk!!] and walk home again in the dark.....

But that probably is one and the same reason really...

I think it's a bloody nuisance...and we have discussed this elsewhere before where i think we all pretty much said the same thing...leave it alone..

I  could never remember which way it went, and years ago set my clock 1 hour back [instead of forward] and turned up to work 2 hours early.... was very worried that no-one was about!! What can i tell you??

Now i remember by 'spring forward-fall back'... Well it works for me!!

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2008, 09:04:58 PM »
We've just had our summer-time period extended. I love it! The narrative below is taken from the Department of Internal Affairs website. It explains how we ended up with two lots of daylight saving. One became permanent and all year round after WWII, meaning that technically our longitude doesn't match our time comparative to GMT. Another summer extension occurred in the seventies and was increased by yet another 3 weeks last year. Yay!

The Origins of Daylight Saving in New Zealand
New Zealand’s earliest daylight saving advocate was Parliamentarian Hon Sir Thomas Sidey. As early as 1909 he argued for putting clocks forward by one hour during summer so that there would be an additional hour of daylight in the evenings. In that year he introduced a Member’s Bill to put this idea into effect. The Bill was rejected, but Sidey was persistent, reintroducing it every year for the next twenty years. It almost became law in 1915 and again in 1926 when it was passed by the House of Representatives, but was rejected by the Legislative Council (which was New Zealand’s upper house of Parliament until 1951). During the second reading of his Summer Time Bill in 1926, Sidey argued that: "the extra hour of daylight after working-hours during the summer months is of especial value to indoor workers and the community as a whole as it gives one additional hour for recreation of all kinds, whether playing games or working in garden plots…one cannot overlook the economic advantages that will also accrue. There will be a saving in the consumption of artificial light."

Much of the debate in the House of Representatives centered on the impact on people in rural areas and women in particular. Opponents of the Bill commented that: "[Summer Time] will bring no happiness to the women of New Zealand who live in the backblocks. [the Bill] does not make the case for now requiring the wife of the working-man to get up an hour earlier in order to get her husband away to his work."

In 1927 Sidey was successful. The passing of the Summer Time Act that year authorised the advancement of clocks by one hour between 6 November 1927 and 4 March 1928. The Act was only operative for one year, and when the Summer Time Act 1928 was passed extending the period of summer time from 14 October 1928 to 17 March 1929, the period of advancement was changed to just half an hour. This made New Zealand Summer Time 12 hours in advance of Greenwich Mean Time.

The Summer Time Act 1929 enacted the provision of a 30-minute time advance from the second Sunday in October to the third Sunday in March the following year. In 1933 the period was extended from the first Sunday in September to the last Sunday in April of the following year. This continued until 1941, when the period of Summer Time was extended by emergency regulations to cover the whole year. This change was made permanent in 1946 by the Standard Time Act.


Daylight Saving since 1974
The Time Act 1974 provided that the Governor-General could declare, by Order in Council, a period of Daylight Time (daylight saving). Daylight Time is fixed as a one-hour advance on New Zealand Standard Time, and in the case of the Chatham Islands, is fixed at one hour forty-five minutes ahead of New Zealand Standard Time.

The public response to a trial period of daylight saving in 1974/75 was generally favourable and the New Zealand Time Order 1975 fixed the period of daylight saving from the last Sunday in October each year to the first Sunday in March of the year following.

In 1985, the Department of Internal Affairs undertook a comprehensive survey of public attitudes towards daylight saving and its effects on work, recreation and society. The results of the survey demonstrated that 76% of the population wanted daylight saving either continued or extended.

In 1988, as a consequence of the survey and further feedback from the public, the Minister of Internal Affairs arranged for a trial period of extended daylight saving to be held from the second Sunday in October to the third Sunday in March. The Minister invited the public to write to him with their views on the five-week extension.

Again the public response was generally favourable and a new Daylight Time Order was made in 1990. It declared that Daylight Time would run for 24 weeks from the first Sunday in October each year until the third Sunday in March of the following year.


Daylight Saving Today
The end of daylight saving in 2006 generated public debate, which led to a review of the period. A petition to extend daylight saving was presented to Parliament with an estimated 42,000 signatures.

On 30 April 2007, Hon Rick Barker, Minister of Internal Affairs, announced a three week extension to the period of daylight saving. Daylight saving now runs from the last Sunday in September until the first Sunday in April.

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2008, 11:01:16 PM »
I just love DST! The more sunlight, the better. I don't mind a slightly dark morning if it means more sunshine in the evening. Darkness is for bats and owls.

All those petitions must have come from poor sods like me who suffer from SADD.

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2008, 11:59:02 PM »
I would sign one in a flash if i was asked....i hate the dark, which is surprising really considering i have spent most of my life going to work in it, socialising in it, and preying on poor unsuspecting innocent folk in it...

Reminder to self: get rid of mirror i got for birthday and lose the garlic someone bought me back from France...

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2008, 12:09:10 AM »
Just paste a picture of yourself in your best outfit to the mirror, T -- you'll always look great. And be careful not to crack it -- 7 years bad luck if you believe in that.

Don't throw out the garlic -- it will keep you young and healthy -- as to bad breath, well, that's what mouthwash is for!

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2008, 02:43:25 AM »
Both good tips threeb....the only trouble is i can't see my reflection when i look in a mirror to cover it up, and for some funny reason my image won't come out on photos...

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2008, 05:00:45 AM »
iz tink dat dailiit stuffz has teh stoopy. i want mai son awl yeer rounds. ther must b somwunz makin teh munny on dis skeem, maibe it bes a cons-"piracy". i wuz tol it wer teh farmers falts but wen i was leetle an livin in teh cuntry haf de kidz wood shows up late fer skool, teh teecher sed "well teh cows don gets up anii erlier"

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2008, 02:04:19 AM »
I had heard that it started as a practical joke perpetrated by Benjamin Franklin.  Too many fell for it.

I used to live in Indiana, and at that time most of the state refused to go on DST.  It was great, and I wish the rest of the country would have followed their example.  They implemented DST some time after I left Indiana, and now they hate it as much as we do.

Even after all these years I still find new reasons to detest DST.  It tends to really foul up phone calls and business transactions.  Spring forward and fall back is a less than adequate description of the situation.  Some countries do, others don't, and it seems that every country that does go on DST has decided to change their clocks on a different date.  Add to that the fact that our spring is Aussie fall, and we are going forward while they are going back.  During the entire spring and fall seasons it is difficult just to schedule a meeting.

Like it or not, we are in a global economy.  People on different continents need to communicate with each other.  We need to pick a time zone and stay with it.

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2008, 02:37:03 AM »
Good luck, man! It's like trying to plan a family reunion with everyone chattering at once. Hard enough to get them to decide on a menu, except, of course, for the beverages!

It's just like metric vs. decimal -- most likely there are proponents of each, who are firmly convinced their side is the best.

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2008, 03:40:46 AM »
Give people an inch and they will take a kilometer...!!

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2008, 06:39:09 AM »
Hibloodylarious!  >:D

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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2008, 03:12:46 PM »
I love, love, love Daylight Savings Time.  If we were to end the switching back and forth, I would vote for eliminating the so-called Standard Time.  One can't have too much daylight, as far as I am concerned.  The years we lived in Panama were the greatest.  Being only nine degrees from the Equator meant that even in the depths of "winter" we had almost as much sun as in mid-summer.
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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2008, 04:29:30 PM »
I have no problem with eliminating "standard" time, and there are some really good reasons to do this.

I read that the death rate due to car accidents goes down when we go on DST, due to more daylight hours and better visibility.  What better reason do you need?
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Re: "What time do you have?"
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2008, 09:49:31 PM »
It's a joy to come home from work while there is still light, or spend a lazy Sunday evening on the porch being able to see nature at work. Not feeling like it's bedtime right after dinner.