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Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« on: November 18, 2020, 04:45:46 AM »
puzzlement:

Since nuder is allowed, why not beclad?

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 09:07:30 AM »
Since nuder is allowed, why not beclad?

What does one have to do with the other?

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 11:36:38 AM »
This is not the first time, Trex, that my somewhat outre humor has overshot the mark. Please accept apologies for abstrusity. I do however wonder why beclad is unacceptable.

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2020, 08:29:44 PM »
beclad?
Sounds as though it belongs in the King James Bible, but I cant place it.

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2020, 10:47:43 PM »
Simply google it

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2020, 03:22:44 AM »
The meaning of the word is fairly obvious ('clothed') but finding an example of it being used in a meaningful context is not so easy.
For example the 'ludwig.guru' website has several examples of 'be clad' (two words) in 'real' sentences, but none of the single word 'beclad' .

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2020, 03:42:43 AM »
...then came one, beclad in the o'erweening pride of erudition...

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 02:32:55 AM »

s p o i l e r 7/11 game Nov 21,2020

My point, pardon,
....not to rub it in, overly
Is that when - currently -
Effectively half the players who discovered penis also remembered skivvies
Surely
beclad
Bears consideration



Re: 7/11 game Nov 21
« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 06:11:40 AM by lilys field »

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2020, 03:31:52 AM »
I'm not sure exactly what your point is, lilys field, but your post contains two spoilers for an active puzzle. Those who prefer not to open spoilers until the puzzle is closed would have had no warning as the original post contained a spoiler for a puzzle on the 18th.

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2020, 06:00:30 AM »
Oops

Didn’t think this warranted any attention. My bad,Pat and other attentive players

Intended point:  beclad deserves consideration for inclusion

« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 06:14:09 AM by lilys field »

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2020, 04:08:00 PM »
Beclad is listed in the online Merriam-Webster and in Wiktionary. I couldn't spot it in any other online dictionaries, but it's in the Shorter Oxford and, of course, the full OED.

I like to have some evidence that a word is or has been occasionally used, before accepting it. Usually it's easy to find examples of an archaic word, in Shakespeare, the King James Bible, or some other work of similar vintage. This time I didn't spot any examples in classic literature, but there are a few instances in less well known works. For example, from a 19th century poem called "Symphonies in Fur", by one J. Ashby-Sterry:

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A DAINTY young damsel is Pearl,
Beclad in the softest of sealskin:
I'm told her papa is an Earl;
Just watch her most gracefully twirl,
A lovely and lissom young girl,
Whose jersey is tight as an eеlskin;
A dainty young damsel is Pearl,
Beclad in the softest of sealskin.

Nineoaks provided a quote, presumably from a book or poem, but I couldn't identify it.

I would assess it as a very obscure word, on the borderline of being too obscure to accept. What counts in its favour is that the OED considers it a variant of beclothed. Since we already allow beclothe, beclothed and beclothing, I'm willing to admit beclad as well.
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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2020, 03:41:48 AM »
re: beclad

Sorry, Alan, I made it up.

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2020, 01:07:38 PM »
Hilarious! 


Is this entry #1 inThe Nine Oaks Book of Familiar Quotations? or are there more?

I too went searching for the source.

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2020, 01:21:21 PM »
Fooled me, i actually thought that it was a pretty good centuries old poem.

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Re: Spoiler Nov. 18 Challenge
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2020, 03:24:43 AM »
Oops, sorry!

I didn't mean to cause a stir...

I just thought 'beclad' might be best used figuratively.

In recompense, I will add this, from Rocky Mountain Life, or Startling Scenes and Perilous Adventures in the Far West During an Expedition of Three Years, by Rufus B. Sage, published in 1857:

In many places it is quite sterile, producing little other than sand-burrs and a specimen of thin, coarse grass, that sadly fail to conceal its forbidding surface; in others, it is but little better than a desert waste of sand-hills or white sun-baked clay, so hard and impervious that neither herb nor grass can take root to grow upon it; and in others, it presents a light superfice, both rich and productive, beclad with all that can beautify and adorn a wilderness of verdure.

I know this looks like even more of a made-up quotation, but, hand on heart, I promise that it's not (at least by me). Apparently, you can purchase a facsimile edition on Amazon.