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matt

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« on: October 30, 2020, 11:40:16 AM »
Although not a word I would expect to use often, it wouldn't give me any pause if I were to come across it. I would expect it to be commonly known.

The letters were available for it in the standard puzzle last Friday (2020-10-23) but it wasn't accepted, even as rare.

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Re: undog
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2020, 12:24:33 PM »
Sorry Matt but without paws i must disagree, just can not throw you a bone at all for this one.

By the way, welcome to the forum & congratulations on your first post.
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Re: undog
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2020, 12:46:10 PM »
Hi, matt. Welcome to the forum. Don't worry about Les's attempts to muzzle you. I'll look into your suggestion soon.
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Re: undog
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2020, 12:52:08 PM »
Grrrrr!

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Re: undog
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2020, 12:27:43 PM »
I would expect it to be commonly known.

The word may be more familiar to you than to most people, matt. I certainly had to look it up to see what it means - "(transitive, nautical) To unfasten (a hatch or door)" according to Wiktionary. Most of the online dictionaries don't even list it. And it doesn't seem to be in any of the Oxford dictionaries, even the full OED.

Still, the word is in Merriam-Webster and Wiktionary. And it is occasionally used, oddly enough, often in science fiction. For example in "The New Martian Way", a story by Brendan DuBois, published last year in Analog magazine:

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I wandered around to the storage shed, undogged the door, and with aid of my helmet headlight, peered in.

Undog will be accepted in future, but as a rare word. And so will undogged and undogging.
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Re: undog
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2020, 02:34:16 PM »
This clever fellow managed to undog the window ;


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Re: undog
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2021, 11:30:25 AM »
Thanks Alan and Les for the welcomes and the canine puns.

Thanks Alan for adding "undog", I have since been able to use it!

Alan, I've probably mostly seen it in SF and fantasy, for keeping air in as much as water out, I'd say.

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Re: undog
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2021, 09:44:05 AM »
I think I've seen it more in fantasy and science fiction than I have otherwise, but I have seen it in books set in (wet-navy) ship settings.  I agree that it is probably not common.