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Mancklin

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« on: July 11, 2008, 08:12:17 AM »
How's about  semic, meaning "pertaining to signs"? As in, this page of smilies is a semic madhouse??

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Re: semic
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 08:21:00 AM »
I've always used semiotic not semic. Learn something new every day.

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Re: semic
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 12:19:22 PM »
I'm with Bobbi here.  I've heard semiotic, not semic.
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Re: semic
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 11:34:05 PM »
Me too, Mancks - semiotic is the one I've seen.  And how is life at the zoo?  Any new staff yet?

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Re: semic
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2008, 08:56:54 AM »
Aren't animals more common in zoo's...???

I've never seen any staff before...

It's a bit like those 'dangerous' [dangeroos] that you are not allowed to feed..i've never seen any of them either- very elusive!!

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Re: semic
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 01:21:21 PM »
When I look up semic at OneLook, I see that it has entries in Hutchinson's Dictionary of Difficult Words, The Phrontistery - A Dictionary of Obscure Words and Luciferous Logolepsy (Dragging obscure words into the light of day). This tends to hoist some warning flags, Manks.

However, the word is also listed in the Shorter Oxford, which makes me inclined to accept it.

The Hutchinson dictionary defines it as "pertaining to a sign", but the Oxford has a more technical definition: "Ling. Of or pertaining to a seme." Seme is defined:  "Ling. A sign. Also, a unit of meaning; spec. a sememe." Sememe, in its turn, is defined:  "Ling. A unit of meaning; the unit of meaning carried by a morpheme."

The first definition might lead us to expect to see it used in all sorts of mundane contexts - at the Highway Department, in connection with smilies, as you suggest, etc. However, in practice it seems to be found in fairly abstruse writings from linguistics or literary criticism.

As far as I can make out, the difference between semic and semiotic is that the latter, properly speaking, pertains to the study of signs, rather than the signs themselves. All these words of course, are related to semantic.

As the word is in the Shorter Oxford, and is evidently in use, albeit in specialist writings, I will accept it. In case anybody is wondering, our word list already contains seme, sememe and even sememic.
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Re: semic
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 09:41:50 AM »
Thanks! As a proud graduate of the Linguistics program of Edinburgh University, 1974, I rest my case.
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Re: semic
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 10:03:29 AM »

Thank you, Mancks, for enlarging my vocabulary . I'm sure I can work it into a conversation somehow, and dazzle someone with my erudition !