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technomc

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SmartyPants...
« on: March 26, 2008, 07:43:28 PM »
I would like to propose 'smarties' for your delectation please Viral.

No long and complicated diatribe about ancient roots from biblical times long gone....or ornithological terms...or even extinct horticultural nonsense.... or even those rather yummy sweeties...
Just a plural of smarty....
You know...they are a right pair of smarties...that kind of thing!!

If i say too much more now in defence of my proposal i would have to give away several other words in the game, so i will shut up...[Thank God! i hear you mutter quietly...well that's not very nice!!!]

Thanking you...back to the reintroduced blue ones...i've used all the red ones for lipstick and rouge...
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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2008, 10:58:07 PM »
I tried it, too, and then was promptly and summarily shot down as well.  :'(

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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2008, 01:44:22 AM »
It hurts doesn't it threeb....???

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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2008, 01:48:23 AM »
Horrible!  >:D

But there's no verdict yet, and as we've found, even judgments have been reversed with enough persuasion, so we'll just have to wait and see.

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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2008, 01:51:32 AM »
Knickers to that....


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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2008, 01:58:42 AM »
Presactly!  >:D

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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2008, 08:19:35 AM »
My best guess for the reason smarties isn't allowed is that if a word is allowed in the singular, it isn't normally allowed in the plural if the plural is formed by simply adding "s."  I don't know whether you tried it, but an alternative spelling for the word "smarty" is allowed.
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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2008, 03:56:49 PM »
As R_M says - and you obviously had noticed too, T - smartie is an accepted word, and was playable in that puzzle. A few dictionaries list smartie as an alternate form of smarty, and some authors have used that spelling, as revealed for example, by a search at Project Gutenberg. So I think we certainly should retain smartie.

Should we allow smarties as well? There are precedents, with other word pairs where the -IE word is much less commonly used than the -Y word. One example is candies.

But in this case, I'm not sure if smarty is such a dominant spelling compared with smartie. (The singular of the chocolate Smarties seems to be "Smartie", but that's probably not relevant, as I don't think this brand name has come into usage as a generic word.)

Any other thoughts on this?
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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2008, 08:24:05 PM »
Yeah...I like the red ones  ;D

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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2008, 09:36:42 PM »
Thanks for looking into it Viral...
As i said in my original post about it i didn't want to say too much for fear of giving away too many words...there were several words that puzzle that ended in 'ies' that were allowed, I can't remember what they were now though - i've slept since then!
And as smarty seems to be the most common spelling here i thought it's plural should have been allowed despite smartie being allowed....

Whatever you decide is ok with me...for the moment anyway!

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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2008, 12:01:49 PM »
I'm going to leave smarties out of the list - for the moment anyway.

Apart from all the other arguments, any set of letters that would allow you to play smarties would also allow you to play smartie. So if I added the plural, players would be able to play both words, which seems excessive.

Sorry, T. Hope you're not smarting too much from my ruling.
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Re: SmartyPants...
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2008, 07:31:49 PM »
Not at all Viral, my little sweety [or is that sweetie?]...
Thanks for checking it out..you are a star[burst].. :-*