I know beck have paddled in many
As for 'bock' i have never heard of it, but i am a follower of the grape.
Have to keep the industry going.

The only grain drink I have taste for is Whisky

Oh Alan you have made my day

Thank you Calilasseia for your info but have to be honest I didn't understand most of it.
My computer is past its use buy date and does not have all the gadgetry

Come to think of it I am nearly past my use by date

Thank you both
Carol

Hey Les
Nice to think it was worth a bottle of Louis xiii, but in all honesty who would pay the price
Living as I do with vineyards and distilleries and wineries all around me I just don't
get it. A bottle of plonk will do me!!!  No not really
To Les and everyone else on the forum I have enjoyed your company
Happy New Year to you all
Carol

Les you are the bees knees
Loved it

here is my twopenny worth.
shouldn't upset anyone
Happy Solstice

This thread has made think, when was the last i heard the expression - What the Dickens and The dicken it isn't.
My favourite is Up Sh.t creek in a wirenetting canoe
This subject will be a great opener for discussion over Christmas Lunch which will probably degenerate after a few bottles of wine.

Peltier is another word iI have never heard before ,but then if it is technical I go all strange and peculiar!!!!
Petri on the other hand I am au fait with.
Welcome to the forum

anona i am with you, if knish is allowed then so should ragu.
the word is on tv cooking shows and in recipe books. I would go so far as to say it is common