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Title: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: ridethetalk on July 01, 2022, 04:05:58 PM
A couple more for your consideration, Alan. It's probably notable that I missed getting (common) fetishist but did get the (rare) fetishise, hence the possibility that adding the "r" on the end made sense to me...

FETISHISER – one who fetishises e.g. “To assume that anyone who’s dated more than one Asian woman is a fetishiser, lumps all Asian women into a singular entity and personality type.” From https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/voices/relationships/article/2017/02/22/whats-difference-between-having-type-and-fetishisation (https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/voices/relationships/article/2017/02/22/whats-difference-between-having-type-and-fetishisation)

SHIFTER – worth a reclassification to common IMHO e.g. would you hand me that large shifter please so that I can tighten the sump plug? You also have numerous references in fantasy novels to shape shifters… (https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-6zd5xpg/images/stencil/250x250/products/13369/43175/sidchrome-450mm-adjustable-wrench-shifter-chrome-plated-scmt25156__32857.1597292199.jpg?c=3)
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: Alan W on July 02, 2022, 03:45:23 PM
Wiktionary lists fetishizer, but not fetishiser. Other dictionaries don't seem to have either. Both spellings are in use. Another example is from Roman Presences: Receptions of Rome in European Culture, 1789–1945, edited by Catharine Edwards:

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[Walter] Benjamin was an inveterate collector of books (he has a famous essay on the subject) and later of quotations, a fetishiser of the collected object, with an ambition to create a work entirely composed of citations from other texts.

We currently allow both fetishize and fetishise. Fetishizer and fetishiser will now be allowed as rare words.
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: ridethetalk on July 02, 2022, 04:47:53 PM
Thanks Alan...  ;D ;D ;D

I only posted this yesterday!!! Does this mean your backlog is no more???  :-P :-P :-P
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: Alan W on July 02, 2022, 07:55:42 PM
Far from it! But I'm trying to keep up with current suggestions - at least for new words - while also responding to some of the older ones.
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: yelnats on July 03, 2022, 09:17:51 PM
I was surprised by shifter being rare  I've owned at least one most of my adult life and have 2 in the toolbox at the moment.
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: Maudland on July 04, 2022, 01:29:40 AM
I was surprised by shifter being rare  I've owned at least one most of my adult life and have 2 in the toolbox at the moment.

I’d call that a wrench …
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: Maudland on July 04, 2022, 07:59:09 AM
(I still think shifter is a word, though!)
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: ridethetalk on July 04, 2022, 11:06:12 AM
(I still think shifter is a word, though!)

Shifter was allowed as a rare word - I was asking for a re-classification to common though, based on your comment, maybe not...  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: TRex on July 05, 2022, 01:55:08 AM
I’d call that a wrench …

Looks like a wrench to me as well. Never encountered shifter.
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: rogue_mother on July 05, 2022, 03:45:59 AM
I have never in my life heard of a wrench called a shifter. The Rogue household has numerous wrenches, including at least one similar to what is pictured above. We would call it a monkey wrench or adjustable wrench.
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: TRex on July 05, 2022, 09:32:57 AM
Curiosity drove me to the OED for a look. Sure enough, I found shifter — but nothing suggesting it as a label for a wrench. Perhaps such usage is an Australianism? (FWIW, spell-checker doesn't care for shifter or Australianism.)
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: ridethetalk on July 05, 2022, 10:01:44 AM
FWIW Here is the listing from the website of a company that specialises in tools adjustable-shifters (https://www.justtools.com.au/garage-workshop/adjustable-shifters/)

The company's name???

Wait for it...
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Just Tools - someone must have had a lot of fun registering that business name!!!  :-R :-R :-R

The heading from that page: Adjustable Shifters; which, to my mind at least, seems to be a tautology...
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: Alan W on July 05, 2022, 02:42:06 PM
As shown by the entry from the OED supplied by TRex, the word shifter has quite a lot of senses not related to spanners. Similarly Wiktionary has 12 senses, but one of these is "A spanner with an adjustable jaw size". None of the other dictionaries I checked had the spanner meaning for shifter. However the Collins dictionary has a listing for shifting spanner:

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Australian and New Zealand

an adjustable spanner

Also called: shifter

I don't see any grounds for making the word common.
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: ridethetalk on July 05, 2022, 05:50:32 PM
Fair call. I almost expected as much because so many hadn't heard of a 'wrench' being called a shifter...
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: TRex on July 06, 2022, 03:42:38 AM
Similarly Wiktionary has 12 senses, but one of these is "A spanner with an adjustable jaw size". None of the other dictionaries I checked had the spanner meaning for shifter. However the Collins dictionary has a listing for shifting spanner:

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Australian and New Zealand

an adjustable spanner

Also called: shifter

Ah! That makes sense. Thanks for finding that and assuaging my curiosity, Alan.
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: Maudland on July 06, 2022, 10:48:02 AM
So interesting when a word we take for granted / as universal turns out to be more ‘local.’
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: ridethetalk on July 06, 2022, 11:23:54 AM
Indeed ^^^
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: Alan W on July 06, 2022, 05:06:37 PM
I just checked the Macquarie Dictionary, from Australia, and one of its meanings for shifter is "Chiefly Eastern States → shifting spanner". So perhaps its not just specific to Australia, but to some parts of Australia.
Title: Re: Thursday 30 June 7-by-many SHIFTIER/THRIFTIEST puzzle
Post by: ridethetalk on July 06, 2022, 07:47:20 PM
Wild - not what I thought to be the case... Who'd have thunk...  ??? ??? ???