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Title: Nimby common?
Post by: Morbius on March 16, 2021, 11:30:15 AM
This is an acronym which is certainly not in the same category as words like scuba and radar which have evolved into words in their own right.  Not surprisingly, played by only 9% of players.  A strong candidate for reclassification in my view. 
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: mkenuk on March 16, 2021, 01:44:05 PM
This is very much a 'Chi-word' for me (a word I've learned from playing Chi), although I have come across it occasionally in films and TV progs.
I've a feeling I heard it in Frances McDormand's 'sure to win an Oscar' film 'Nomadland'
It's in COD, but written with a capiital (Nimby).
I suppose it should be capitalized, since it is an acronym formed from a direct speech utterance -'Not in my back yard!', although I suspect it may have become transmogrified into a noun or an adjective - '... protests from the nimby community...'

I don't think it should be common, though. 
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: les303 on March 16, 2021, 02:19:05 PM
Nimby ... common ... Not in million bloody years.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: auntiemo on March 16, 2021, 03:27:51 PM
Only got it because I'd remembered it from somewhere. It was my last word for the puzzle...in desperation...NOT because I thought it would be common,
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: Jacki on March 16, 2021, 03:59:17 PM
I was very surprised that IGNOMY was rare and even more surprised that NIMBY was common. I don't think NIMBY should even be allowed. To me it's like MUFTI.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: mkenuk on March 16, 2021, 05:06:34 PM
I was very surprised that IGNOMY was rare ....

I think the more common form of the word is ignominy and that ignomy is an obsolete form of that.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: les303 on March 16, 2021, 06:21:51 PM
Mike, i do agree with you that ignomy is correctly classified as rare.
However, as you would be well aware, there are many examples in chi where words with obsolete or archaic spelling are excepted as common.
Perhaps Alan could offer a brief explanation as to how he determines the classification of these type of words?

Jacki, so long as it causes no ignominy, could you please tell me what MUFTI stands for.
I think that my guess " many use forum to illuminate " may be incorrect although your response will indeed illuminate me.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: cmh on March 16, 2021, 07:29:15 PM
I think that nimby is very much a British expression. I can't remember which politician put his size 10's in it a number of years ago about a planning application for a lot of housing developments too near his ancestral home,but it became a popular expression overnight. Having said that , I failed to see the "word?".If it is to be allowed then it should be uncommon.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: mkenuk on March 16, 2021, 07:42:35 PM
Is 'mufti' an acronym?
As far as I know, it's an Arabic word meaning 'legal adviser' or 'counsellor'.

I think it's also used as soldiers' slang for 'out of uniform' or 'in civvies'.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: Jacki on March 16, 2021, 08:02:13 PM
I came across MUFTI in crosswords mainly in the Sydney Morning Herald's quick crossword and the clue was invariably "plain clothes day", ie staff didn't have to wear a uniform. Never heard of it before - I just called it plain clothes day - usually associated with a gold coin donation to charity. On further research, MUFTI apparently is an acronym for Minimum Use of Force Tactical Intervention.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: Alan W on March 16, 2021, 09:50:45 PM
However, as you would be well aware, there are many examples in chi where words with obsolete or archaic spelling are excepted as common.
Perhaps Alan could offer a brief explanation as to how he determines the classification of these type of words?

I didn't think there were a lot of obsolete words classed as common, Les. The rule is the same as for any other word - if it's likely to be known to Chi players, it's common. There are a few pronouns like thee, thou and thine that are common - I think everybody would know of these words. I'm sure there are some others, but I can't think of any offhand.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: les303 on March 21, 2021, 03:01:46 PM
Would troth be one those others?
It appeared in the just completed 7 by many game.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: birdy on March 22, 2021, 02:48:14 PM
NIMBY is fairly common in my area, though I think it is still usually spelled as an acronym, with capital letters.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: les303 on July 01, 2021, 03:04:35 PM
However, as you would be well aware, there are many examples in chi where words with obsolete or archaic spelling are excepted as common.
Perhaps Alan could offer a brief explanation as to how he determines the classification of these type of words?

I didn't think there were a lot of obsolete words classed as common, Les. The rule is the same as for any other word - if it's likely to be known to Chi players, it's common. There are a few pronouns like thee, thou and thine that are common - I think everybody would know of these words. I'm sure there are some others, but I can't think of any offhand.
I suggested in this thread that troth should be made rare.
faerie appeared in the just completed 7 - by - many & is another archaic spelling which i feel should also be made rare.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: pat on July 01, 2021, 06:40:55 PM
Certainly commonly known in this part of the world, as is its derivative nimbyism. In fact I used the latter recently in a thread on here.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: Tom on July 02, 2021, 10:31:58 AM
N.I.M.B.Y. Certainly common here in South Gippsland, Victoria. We constantly face the threat of acres of hideous 100 metres+ high wind turbines on our beautiful landscape. Many years ago that threat came to us right here in our particular location (the closest turbine would have been about 600m behind our house). As a citizens' group we banded together to fight the proposal legally. It cost us $40,000 but at the end of the day we won and the spectre of those monstrosities was vanquished, from here at least. Of course, we faced opposition, mainly from inner city conservationists who would never have that threat themselves and one of the names we were call was 'nimby'. I wear that name with pride because until one faces the threat of having their amentity so grossly impacted one cannot understand just how important ones back yard is.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: ridethetalk on July 02, 2021, 01:39:15 PM
Tom, to each their own, but, personally I find them magnificent machines and love the look of a landscape filled with these graceful towers with their slowly rotating blades. It's a wonderful bonus that they produce fossil-free power for our modern lifestyles.

A whole lot better than a dirty coal mine and coal-fired power station spewing lots of pollution into the air. People in the Latrobe Valley have paid in years off their lifespans because of that pollution...
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: Linda on July 02, 2021, 10:08:01 PM
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personally I find them magnificent machines and love the look of a landscape filled with these graceful towers with their slowly rotating blades.

So do I!  What's not to like?  >:D
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: mkenuk on July 03, 2021, 02:49:18 AM
Hear, hear
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: Ozzyjack on July 03, 2021, 06:16:48 AM
Si, si
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: Alan W on July 28, 2021, 04:13:24 PM
Getting back to the original issue, the common classification of nimby, what seems to decide the issue in my mind is that about 90% of the time the word is written as NIMBY or Nimby. The word written in all lower case letters is not common, so I'll change its category to rare.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: Alan W on July 28, 2021, 04:41:52 PM
In this topic, Les raised the issue of troth, which he felt should be rare on the grounds of being obsolete.

Nobody spoke up for it, but maybe it was overshadowed by nimby and, mainly in another thread, faerie. I found an example of its use in a recent news item (https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/2021/07/23/france-approves-separatism-law-to-tackle-islamist-extremism/) about a French "anti-separatism" law:

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People representing the French state, in either the public or private sector, will have to plight their troth to the principles of secularism and neutrality in public service. One consequence is the end of public swimming pools with male and female-only lanes for religious reasons.

(It's good to see the French government is focused on the big issues of the day.)

When the word is used, it's usually being either pledged or plighted, or occasionally given. These are phrases which people have perhaps lifted from traditional wedding vows - which are possibly not heard so often these days in actual wedding ceremonies.

I don't think troth is actually common, so it will be treated as a rare word from now on.
Title: Re: Nimby common?
Post by: les303 on July 28, 2021, 05:46:15 PM
Thanks Alan, may the faerie god mother be with you.